Apart from the heady analysis that this site will have, I think it's like eating yeah of course you want substance but you also want desert.
So, with that I bring you pictures for you goths of color.
Saturday, October 30, 2010
Inspiration
Apart from the heady analysis that this site will have, I think it's like eating yeah of course you want substance but you also want desert.
So, with that I bring you pictures for you goths of color.
The Black Swan Theory
What do you think of when you think of the image of a swan?
Graceful birds, or maybe the ugly duckling that grew into a beautiful swan, and you more than likely pictured that the swan was white.
And indeed, most swans are indeed white birds.
But, there exists black swans, and they are rare but they do exist.
Black swans have always coexisted with white swans but were not documented until the 18th century.
There's an excellent Wiki article about the Black Swan theory that basically describes unpredicted and undirected events as black swan events.
In a previous post I talked about exoticization of black goths, and to break this down.
A perspective from the punk side
Being a minority in a minority subculture is a double-edged sword. Some people will use your existence as merely a form of tokenism to prove how "accepting" and "diverse" the culture really is. Because you know one black kid at a punk show means that punks aren't racist ;-)
But racism/invisibility go hand in hand with subculture scenes sometimes. For example, a quick look through alt-porn sites like Gods Girls and Suicide Girls will show you just how real this tokenism is. These sites loudly declare that they accept alternative forms of beauty, and yet, the girls all look the same. So what to make of that is it hypocrisy? Ill-intentioned? That's hard to say, the problem with living in a white supremacist culture is that if you are white it's hard to see beyond whiteness. So, it's as if to say if you're a white swan and all your used to seeing is white swans you assume A. All swans are white. B. Only white can be attributed to being a swan.
It's a logical fallacy, and yet it's one that plays out whenever a black goth or punk goes into a predominately white scene and has to shoulder a racist comment that was just "a joke" or when someone says "You're not like all the other black people, you're different."
That's not a compliment for sure, it's an insult. That's akin to me saying "You're not like all the other white people, you're different."
A quick read through Gothic.Net's infamous "Black people don't make good vampires," or "Black goths...Never seen one" thread will show you the spectrum of just plain ignorance associated with goths who are not white, specifically black. Some people think that black goths don't look good in goth attire, as they believe that Victorian clothes are well suited for white people maybe. Now it's true, you will not see a Black goth scrambling to paint their face white, that would be rather ridiculous yes?
The problem here is that the whole set up is breeding in icky racist bacteria. It's hard not to feel a sense of bitterness towards people who are from the same scene from you thereby the same "we're all misfits cumbaya" but...they'd rather you go back to some other box. It's not fair but neither is life. I ran across a horrible joke that said the reasons you don't see black goths is because they *can't* be seen. It's so stupid in it's scope, and so really, it's a dumb joke. Listen here whoever came up with that pile of trash, if you can't see me, you can't see the damage I'm getting ready to come up with for you *grin*
To re-iterate, goth is an aethetic choice. Aesthetic. Choice. Meaning if it's a choice anyone can do it. It's an aesthetic, meaning it's a look, you put the two together and it's a look that someone can choose. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Reading some life stories of black goths and punks actually makes me sad, the idea that someone can make you feel inferior for simply choosing something is beyond me and really sad. Those goths/punks/emos/whatever who condemn non-white members based on their race and other hideous facets should really be ashamed of themselves, and in fact they should get kicked out of the club. :P
Truth is, anyone can carry a certain aesthetic if they want to, free fucking country.
Graceful birds, or maybe the ugly duckling that grew into a beautiful swan, and you more than likely pictured that the swan was white.
And indeed, most swans are indeed white birds.
But, there exists black swans, and they are rare but they do exist.
Black swans have always coexisted with white swans but were not documented until the 18th century.
There's an excellent Wiki article about the Black Swan theory that basically describes unpredicted and undirected events as black swan events.
In a previous post I talked about exoticization of black goths, and to break this down.
A perspective from the punk side
Being a minority in a minority subculture is a double-edged sword. Some people will use your existence as merely a form of tokenism to prove how "accepting" and "diverse" the culture really is. Because you know one black kid at a punk show means that punks aren't racist ;-)
But racism/invisibility go hand in hand with subculture scenes sometimes. For example, a quick look through alt-porn sites like Gods Girls and Suicide Girls will show you just how real this tokenism is. These sites loudly declare that they accept alternative forms of beauty, and yet, the girls all look the same. So what to make of that is it hypocrisy? Ill-intentioned? That's hard to say, the problem with living in a white supremacist culture is that if you are white it's hard to see beyond whiteness. So, it's as if to say if you're a white swan and all your used to seeing is white swans you assume A. All swans are white. B. Only white can be attributed to being a swan.
It's a logical fallacy, and yet it's one that plays out whenever a black goth or punk goes into a predominately white scene and has to shoulder a racist comment that was just "a joke" or when someone says "You're not like all the other black people, you're different."
That's not a compliment for sure, it's an insult. That's akin to me saying "You're not like all the other white people, you're different."
A quick read through Gothic.Net's infamous "Black people don't make good vampires," or "Black goths...Never seen one" thread will show you the spectrum of just plain ignorance associated with goths who are not white, specifically black. Some people think that black goths don't look good in goth attire, as they believe that Victorian clothes are well suited for white people maybe. Now it's true, you will not see a Black goth scrambling to paint their face white, that would be rather ridiculous yes?
The problem here is that the whole set up is breeding in icky racist bacteria. It's hard not to feel a sense of bitterness towards people who are from the same scene from you thereby the same "we're all misfits cumbaya" but...they'd rather you go back to some other box. It's not fair but neither is life. I ran across a horrible joke that said the reasons you don't see black goths is because they *can't* be seen. It's so stupid in it's scope, and so really, it's a dumb joke. Listen here whoever came up with that pile of trash, if you can't see me, you can't see the damage I'm getting ready to come up with for you *grin*
To re-iterate, goth is an aethetic choice. Aesthetic. Choice. Meaning if it's a choice anyone can do it. It's an aesthetic, meaning it's a look, you put the two together and it's a look that someone can choose. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Reading some life stories of black goths and punks actually makes me sad, the idea that someone can make you feel inferior for simply choosing something is beyond me and really sad. Those goths/punks/emos/whatever who condemn non-white members based on their race and other hideous facets should really be ashamed of themselves, and in fact they should get kicked out of the club. :P
Truth is, anyone can carry a certain aesthetic if they want to, free fucking country.
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
[African] American Gothic? part 1
One of the main reasons I started this blog, was the sheer lack of visibility of black people within the goth subculture. I'm very sure there are some, and have seen some from time to time at a show or in a magazine, or even on blogs, but even then we are (with other ethnic minorities) still very lacking in visibility. It's just plain difficult to find a black goth, and why is that?
Well, people associate goth sometimes as being exclusive to pale, white,skinny people. Such ideas are rigid in scope and truth be told, there is a variety of goths. So if there is a variety of goths, like perky goths, ether goths, metal goths, glam goth, baby goth, goth lollis, why does it surprise people to find black goths? And what's with the inane questions "Well what type of music does a Black Goth listen to?" "What is the aesthetic of a Black Goth?"
The same thing as a Goth.
Granted, there are not many Goth bands featuring African Americans, Abney Park comes to mind, and some post-punk bands do have African American members, but no band with someone at the forefront comes to mind. In fact, the black goth in the media is rendered practically invisible.
The Black Experience, which when you look at the words on paper---does sound goth---and there's a joke circulating "I'm so goth I was born black," but politically and socially "The" Black Experience is in regards to the experience of those born darker under the sun.
For years, and much to this day, minorities have to define themselves in alignment with how the majority group wishes to define them. Me being goth is rebellion. And do I label myself a goth? Perhaps. I have gothic tendencies, and I like music that can be described as "goth-y"...but on the same token, I like hip hop and I like rap. And liking both those genres of music does not exclude me from the goth card,because guess what? there are gothic elements in rap and hip hop (a post on that later).
And because I'm not a pompous ass all the time, a brief look at the word Gothic (excluding the historical context of those words---we know Germanic tribes, architecture, yadda, yadda)
Gothic (adjective)
: of or relating to a style of fiction characterized by the use of desolate or remote settings and macabre, mysterious, or violent incidents
and...from our 'trusty' friends over at Urban Dictionary, "Goth"
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.
(now this definition is loosely problematic)
and lastly, for the sake of this post "Black Goth"
Automatically does not meet the criteria for being a goth, as goths have had no real problems. Gothics must be rich and white. And have no friends outside their group. Goth basics.
WOW---the ignorance in this definition, so largely people have NO idea.
I wanted to include this example because it illustrates two problems in the goth community regarding African American and Ethnic groups in general (and no, the groups are not interchangeable).
1. Authenticity - As if by sheer virtue of your skin color it negates an aesthetic choice. There seems to be this underlying racist belief (yes it is racist you can't argue otherwise) that Black Goths are not real goths, that they are indeed posing, that they can not carry the style the same way. That the bottom line is: these brown skinned goths (in comparison to alabaster goths) are less.
2. Rarity- this is a bigger problem. The rarity of Black Goths leads some to believe that since they are rare--they do not exist. This rarity also proposes "Exoticization," and a slew of identity issues (which I will get into later).
The point of this blog is to in an intellectual way open up the discourse on the other shades of "The Black Experience," I will be using examples of pop culture, and whatever I can find to present a full presentation of just one facet of a goth lifestyle for someone of color.
And hopefully it's going to be fun. If not, eh well.
Well, people associate goth sometimes as being exclusive to pale, white,skinny people. Such ideas are rigid in scope and truth be told, there is a variety of goths. So if there is a variety of goths, like perky goths, ether goths, metal goths, glam goth, baby goth, goth lollis, why does it surprise people to find black goths? And what's with the inane questions "Well what type of music does a Black Goth listen to?" "What is the aesthetic of a Black Goth?"
The same thing as a Goth.
Granted, there are not many Goth bands featuring African Americans, Abney Park comes to mind, and some post-punk bands do have African American members, but no band with someone at the forefront comes to mind. In fact, the black goth in the media is rendered practically invisible.
The Black Experience, which when you look at the words on paper---does sound goth---and there's a joke circulating "I'm so goth I was born black," but politically and socially "The" Black Experience is in regards to the experience of those born darker under the sun.
For years, and much to this day, minorities have to define themselves in alignment with how the majority group wishes to define them. Me being goth is rebellion. And do I label myself a goth? Perhaps. I have gothic tendencies, and I like music that can be described as "goth-y"...but on the same token, I like hip hop and I like rap. And liking both those genres of music does not exclude me from the goth card,because guess what? there are gothic elements in rap and hip hop (a post on that later).
And because I'm not a pompous ass all the time, a brief look at the word Gothic (excluding the historical context of those words---we know Germanic tribes, architecture, yadda, yadda)
Gothic (adjective)
: of or relating to a style of fiction characterized by the use of desolate or remote settings and macabre, mysterious, or violent incidents
and...from our 'trusty' friends over at Urban Dictionary, "Goth"
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.
(now this definition is loosely problematic)
and lastly, for the sake of this post "Black Goth"
Automatically does not meet the criteria for being a goth, as goths have had no real problems. Gothics must be rich and white. And have no friends outside their group. Goth basics.
WOW---the ignorance in this definition, so largely people have NO idea.
I wanted to include this example because it illustrates two problems in the goth community regarding African American and Ethnic groups in general (and no, the groups are not interchangeable).
1. Authenticity - As if by sheer virtue of your skin color it negates an aesthetic choice. There seems to be this underlying racist belief (yes it is racist you can't argue otherwise) that Black Goths are not real goths, that they are indeed posing, that they can not carry the style the same way. That the bottom line is: these brown skinned goths (in comparison to alabaster goths) are less.
2. Rarity- this is a bigger problem. The rarity of Black Goths leads some to believe that since they are rare--they do not exist. This rarity also proposes "Exoticization," and a slew of identity issues (which I will get into later).
The point of this blog is to in an intellectual way open up the discourse on the other shades of "The Black Experience," I will be using examples of pop culture, and whatever I can find to present a full presentation of just one facet of a goth lifestyle for someone of color.
And hopefully it's going to be fun. If not, eh well.
Thursday, October 14, 2010
Head to toe, I'm dressed in black
(from FuckYeahGoths)
Mission statement:
For all intents and purposes, this is the blog of an angry black goth chick. There are many goths and many people of color. But it seems to be that the outlet, or representation of Goths of color is practically nonexistent. Through this blog, I hope to detail what it's like for a goth of color, daily stuff, things of artifice and goth-y life.
This is not going to be a walking on eggshells type of blog, so if you don't like what I have to say, don't read it.
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